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Posted 27 December 2019 - 08:39 AM

Thanks FH for sharing that information. The severity of the vomiting caused my gastritis to reappear. Does anyone have any tips on how to combat gastritis naturally? I heard garlic but I'm afraid to take supplements.

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Posted 27 December 2019 - 08:48 AM

Garlic and peppermint is all I am aware of and of course there is the standard treatment for any upset stomach.

Drink warm liquids only
Warm (not hot) pad on the stomach
No hot spicy food etc.

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Posted 27 December 2019 - 08:56 AM

Thanks FH. I'm a little worried about developing an ulcer from this. Taking antibiotics would be the worst thing I could think of. Of course, the main treatment for gastritis are antacids which I cant take. I wonder how badly it would set me back if I took an over the counter one. If I were to take one, what do you think would be the least dangerous one for affecting cymbalta? I've never had gastritis from vomiting before so not sure how this resolves.

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Posted 27 December 2019 - 10:39 AM

Gastritis is very very common with Cymbalta withdrawal and many have also vomited. The safest ones OTC would probably be Tums, calcium carbonate. It still should not be taken within 2 hours of any medication. I assume you are having acid reflux if the stomach issues are related to the breathing problems. If so you can dissolve the Tums in a little water, say 1/4 cup, and then take it. That way it will neutralize the acid in the esophagus on the way down.


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Posted 27 December 2019 - 01:23 PM

Ya I've had gastritis many times over the last 3 years but this may be the worst episode in severity of symptoms since having the stomach flu.

I'm basically living off of chicken, rice and brocolli right now. Trying to maintain a very bland diet and I'm drinking room temperature ginger tea and water. This will be a good test to see if I can cure it with food alone.

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Posted 27 December 2019 - 03:10 PM

FH last question - ginger supplements, safe? Thank you again for your help.

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Posted 27 December 2019 - 04:58 PM

Many members have used ginger supplements with no complaints.


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Posted 27 December 2019 - 05:14 PM

Best form is in tea. But raw ginger root from grocery store and brew. Don't get the tea bags as you get nothing from them.

 

I grate the root directly into the tea pot - hot water on - leave for around 5-6 minutes and into a mug. Bit of honey and hmmmmmm.... works a treat.


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Posted 27 December 2019 - 09:54 PM

IUN are you still having stomach issues as well?

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 06:50 AM

Hi Lyla. I'm having bad stomach issues. Sorry you are too.

It's definitely gastritis or something similar. I ate all the wrong foods last night and this morning it feels like it's all stuck behind my breastbone and it's making me feel short of breath and making my arms and chest ache🤮. It's my own fault so I need to just eat basic food for a while at least.

I've got Lansoprazole but it doesn't seem to be doing much. I also have some herbal tablets for Candida, which give me more relief. I've been referred to a gastroenterologist but the wait will probably be long! How do your stomach issues make you feel?

Praying for us both to be better soon.

Polly

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 08:56 AM

Hey Polly

How long have you had the stomach issues for? I took pantoloc a couple months ago and it set me back terribly for a long time so I'd be cautious taking gerd meds as they may affect the effectiveness of our meds. I personally think all antacids do. Before I took pantoloc I was feeling pretty good overall and all my acute symptoms flooded back in after I took it.

I get a lot of pain in my stomach. Somewhat nauseous. A lot of burping. More tired.

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 09:10 AM

Hi Lyla

The stomach and chest pains started about 8 weeks ago when I was weaning off Duloxetine. Have been off for 5 weeks now. Are you still taking it?
I ate a lot of rich food yesterday and so regret it today😭.

I have pains in my stomach, across my chest and shoulders and feel nauseous but very hungry and my tummy is rumbling all the time. I just can't get comfortable today😫. The doctor thinks it could be a stomach ulcer. I haven't been taking the Lansoprazole consistently so maybe I need to for a few weeks. Am afraid to though in view of what you said. Have you found anything to make the symptoms more comfortable?

Thanks.

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 09:49 AM

Listening to your conversation brings back a lot of memories. All bad.  lol

 

My sympathies.


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Posted 28 December 2019 - 10:11 AM

Thanks.

How long did you have your stomach problems Fishinghat and how did you find relief (apart from what you've already told me - to save you repeating yourself)? I'm currently sat with a hot water bottle on my stomach and chest.

This has to be withdrawal. I haven't ever experienced anything like this before. It's horrible 😭.

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 10:41 AM

IUN are you still having stomach issues as well?

 

No - not any more - but I had them whilst on Cymbalta, then during withdrawal, then again while on Lexapro... only stopped when I switched back to Celexa. So had stomach issues on and off for about a year - not nice.... so if you want to know the extent to what AD's can do for GI areas, this is it...

 

I feel so much for both you and Polly.

 

I am currently nursing what feels like the world's worse hangover. I'm a fool. I had alcohol... with a dramamine. I am going to be paying for this for a while now. Stupid IUN....


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Posted 28 December 2019 - 11:10 AM

Mine lasted around 6 weeks. I lived off of pepto, Imodium, zantac antacids (generic version of Tums), warm compresses on stomach and peppermint. I noticed you mentioned a "hot" water bottle. If it is hot then it will make things worse, Just warm, around 80 to 100F, is best.


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Posted 28 December 2019 - 11:23 AM

Hey Polly

I doubt it's an ulcer. Whatever you do, don't let them put you on antibiotics unless it's a confirmed ulcer. Antibiotics is the last thing you want to be on in withdrawal. Are you still taking duloxetine or have you completely weaned off?

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 11:25 AM

IUN you know better...no alcohol until you're good and healed! How have you been feeling otherwise?

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 01:01 PM

Thanks all. FH - I usually wait until the hot water bottle has cooled down quite a bit before I put it in my stomach.

IUN - sorry you are feeling rough. Hope you feel better soon. My pain is self inflicted too. It seemed like a good idea when I was eating it😫. I figured that as alcohol isn't agreeing with me I'd treat myself to some nice food. That'll teach me to be so greedy!

Lyla - no I'm not on Duloxetine at all. I took my last dose 5 weeks ago next Monday. I've got no other withdrawals apart from this awful stomach and chest pain. FH - the fact that your stomach discomfort lasted for 6 weeks has given me hope that the end of the pain is in sight. Did you just get up one morning and it had gone or was it gradual?

Thanks.

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 01:07 PM

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Ok then I retract my statement. I doubt there's anything for you to worry about in taking a ppi for a while, although ppi's do come with their own dangers. It's best to try other things first like completely cleaning up your diet and see if it goes away first. I'm a big believer in living naturally. Meds usually cause other problems that are worse than what they treat.

Otherwise if you do choose the med route then take it for a few weeks and symptoms should go away.

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 01:39 PM

Thanks Lyla. Feel really rubbish right now so will take my second dose for the day and see if it helps.

If I could just get rid of this horrible stomach issue I would feel 100%!

Hope you're feeling OK at the moment.

Polly

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 01:55 PM

Polly, it faded out over the last two  weeks.


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Posted 28 December 2019 - 02:27 PM

Lyla is right on the money there - antibiotics should be avoided unless they are absolutely needed - they will wreak havoc with your circumstances as they are!

 

It will be very interesting to see the results of the specialist with there being a divided opinion over what is causing this issue. Time will tell.

 

And yes Lyla - I should have known better. It was the stress of having to endure 90 minutes with my family after the feud that preceded it, and of course dealing with my wife before, during and after the event. So much responsibility for one person!


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Posted 30 December 2019 - 09:01 AM

I might also have an ulcer. Not sure but my stomach is always in pain now after having the stomach flu last week and vomiting so much. If it is gastritis then I've never quite felt like this with gastritis before. Another problem since I got sick is that I'm extremely sensitive to food again now. My heart pounding seems to be subsiding but now I'm feeling very revved up.

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Posted 30 December 2019 - 09:15 AM

Hi Lyla

I can't remember whether you are still on Duloxetine/Cymbalta or not. Can you remind me please?

You may have seen my post about my stomach pain - it is really bad today. I have been referred for a scan and to see the consultant. I have painkillers and will try them later, but don't really want to. How long have you had your stomach issues?

Polly

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Posted 30 December 2019 - 10:15 AM

Have you had a scope done? That's the best test to have done. I had one a couple years ago but I think I'm going to see about having another. Ill ask when I see my gastro in a couple weeks. The only thing is, I do it the painful way without anaesthetic. I'm also supposed to have kidney stone surgery next week but I think I'm going to postpone it while I'm in this state.

I'm still on 25mg of duloxetine and havent tapered in over a year since my WD crash. I've had stomach problems for a few years but this most recent bout started up in September. It was mostly better until I got sick last week and now it's back with a vengeance.

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Posted 30 December 2019 - 01:50 PM

You might rethink the kidney stone issue. It may make you feel a lot better if you get them taken care of. Pain can make your withdrawal much worse. Your call.

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Posted 30 December 2019 - 02:12 PM

Hi Lyla

So sorry to hear you have suffered so much. I had a scope done in August and it showed that I had a small polyp in my stomach and hyperplasia(sore patches) in my oesophagus.

The doctor said she doubts it is an ulcer as there wasn't even the start of one when I had the scope, so that's reassuring. She feels it is more related to gallbladder issues, but I'm not so sure. Will wait and see what the consultant says (when I eventually get to see them).

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Posted 30 December 2019 - 08:30 PM

Thanks for the advice guys. Btw I'm finding ginger to have a bad effect on me. I get worse reflux from it. I'm trying to go on a low acid all natural diet. I bought the book "The Acid Watcher Diet", it's really good.

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Posted 31 December 2019 - 09:09 AM

That is an excellent idea Lyla. It may be slow to help but in the long run should be a positive step. Let us know how it progresses.



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