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[invalidusername]

eBook can be found here;

 

https://www.cymbalta...tion-the-ebook/

[Axlejames]

eBook can be found here;

 

https://www.cymbalta...tion-the-ebook/

Thank you. I also contacted my dr and told her all of my symptoms. She doesnt seemed to concerned just decided to prescribe me some meds for a few weeks. I am trying to think of that as a positive 

[Axlejames]

stress-induced hyperacidity ever heard of this 

[fishinghat]

stress-induced hyperacidity - All part of the stress causing a slow down in the digestive tract. This in turn causes the stomach to produce gas, more acid, digest slower, and much more. It can cause IBS, constipation, diarrhea and other symptoms. It is inflammatory.

[fishinghat]

siracha sauce is a terrible thing to eat while going through withdrawal. It contains hot peppers which inflame the stomach and causes heartburn and makes all other digestive symptoms worse. It also usually contains vinegar which is acetic acid and can greatly make things worse. You really need to read that section in the ebook on controlling an upset stomach as well as the do's and don't section.

[Axlejames]

siracha sauce is a terrible thing to eat while going through withdrawal. It contains hot peppers which inflame the stomach and causes heartburn and makes all other digestive symptoms worse. It also usually contains vinegar which is acetic acid and can greatly make things worse. You really need to read that section in the ebook on controlling an upset stomach as well as the do's and don't section.

That is what I have been doing for sure. 

[Axlejames]

How do I know if this is an ulcer

[Axlejames]

so had a realization the acid stuff just started last night. I mean I have been having dull stomach pain but the acid didnt start till yesterday. Is it more plausible that because I havent had the acid issue until just yesterday that. I havent done to much damage yet ?

[Axlejames]

Are Rolaids OK to use I dont see them on the list

[fishinghat]

How do I know if this is an ulcer

There will be blood in your stool. 

 

so had a realization the acid stuff just started last night. I mean I have been having dull stomach pain but the acid didnt start till yesterday. Is it more plausible that because I havent had the acid issue until just yesterday that. I havent done to much damage yet ?

 

A single acid event will not cause an ulcer. Usually that requires months if not years of heartburn episodes. 

 

Rolaids are ok but ALL antacids interfere with the absorption of medications to some extent. Antacids should be taken at least 2 hours apart from any other medication.

[Axlejames]

There will be blood in your stool. 

 

 

A single acid event will not cause an ulcer. Usually that requires months if not years of heartburn episodes. 

 

Rolaids are ok but ALL antacids interfere with the absorption of medications to some extent. Antacids should be taken at least 2 hours apart from any other medication.

Thank you sir my doc gave me something for my stomach I cant remember the name I will post when I get home. 

[Axlejames]

One other question my boss suggested I take a probiotic pill I read some of the probitotic section can i use them with a prescription pill. 

[Axlejames]

There will be blood in your stool. 

 

 

A single acid event will not cause an ulcer. Usually that requires months if not years of heartburn episodes. 

 

Rolaids are ok but ALL antacids interfere with the absorption of medications to some extent. Antacids should be taken at least 2 hours apart from any other medication.

So one thing I have to work on is tensing my stomach muscles I feel like this has contributed to  a lot of the pain how do I not tense my muscles when  I am stressed or anxious. ?
 

[Axlejames]

One last thing I am considering taking the gabapentin my dr gave me for a short while. It says to take as needed on the bottle. If I do this say for a few weeks am I gonna go through withdrawal again ? Is it worth it even then I am not sure how the as needed works. He has on the bottle take 1 pill 3 times a day as needed. It would be 900 mg a day. I am desperate to get my anxiety under control any advice please my friends.

[Axlejames]

The medicine is Pantoprazole

[fishinghat]

One other question my boss suggested I take a probiotic pill I read some of the probitotic section can i use them with a prescription pill. 

 

A great many people take a daily probiotic capsule. A really good brand is Renew Life. No prescription required for probiotics.

 

So one thing I have to work on is tensing my stomach muscles I feel like this has contributed to  a lot of the pain how do I not tense my muscles when  I am stressed or anxious. ?
 

 

Doing breathing exercises while lying down will help. Also you can use a warm heating pad on your stomach as well.

 

"One last thing I am considering taking the gabapentin my dr gave me for a short while. It says to take as needed on the bottle. If I do this say for a few weeks am I gonna go through withdrawal again ?"

 

Yes

 

Pantoprazole is an acid reducer. It can interfere with the absorption of other meds (see ebook for details). Do not take it within 2 hours of another medication.

 

Common side effects include headaches, diarrhea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and joint pain.^[4] More serious side effects may include severe allergic reactions, a type of chronic inflammation known as atrophic gastritis, Clostridium difficile colitis, low magnesium, and vitamin B12 deficiency.^[4]

[Axlejames]

A great many people take a daily probiotic capsule. A really good brand is Renew Life. No prescription required for probiotics.

 

 

Doing breathing exercises while lying down will help. Also you can use a warm heating pad on your stomach as well.

 

"One last thing I am considering taking the gabapentin my dr gave me for a short while. It says to take as needed on the bottle. If I do this say for a few weeks am I gonna go through withdrawal again ?"

 

Yes

 

Pantoprazole is an acid reducer. It can interfere with the absorption of other meds (see ebook for details). Do not take it within 2 hours of another medication.

 

Common side effects include headaches, diarrhea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and joint pain.^[4] More serious side effects may include severe allergic reactions, a type of chronic inflammation known as atrophic gastritis, Clostridium difficile colitis, low magnesium, and vitamin B12 deficiency.^[4]

It also says it heals esophagus and ulcers if you have one. I had another thought what If I dont have enough acid in my stomach what if that is more my issue. The reason I get bloated and cant digest very well? I am supposed to take this in the morning I take my adderall in the morning what do I do wait for my adderall till 10 

[Axlejames]

A great many people take a daily probiotic capsule. A really good brand is Renew Life. No prescription required for probiotics.

 

 

Doing breathing exercises while lying down will help. Also you can use a warm heating pad on your stomach as well.

 

"One last thing I am considering taking the gabapentin my dr gave me for a short while. It says to take as needed on the bottle. If I do this say for a few weeks am I gonna go through withdrawal again ?"

 

Yes

 

Pantoprazole is an acid reducer. It can interfere with the absorption of other meds (see ebook for details). Do not take it within 2 hours of another medication.

 

Common side effects include headaches, diarrhea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and joint pain.^[4] More serious side effects may include severe allergic reactions, a type of chronic inflammation known as atrophic gastritis, Clostridium difficile colitis, low magnesium, and vitamin B12 deficiency.^[4]

If I am taking it for 8 -10 days how much of an impact will it have on me?

[fishinghat]

It would be almost unheard of to have low stomach acid during periods of stress/anxiety while high acid and heartburn are common under those conditions. 

 

Yes, I would wait until 10 AM to take the Pantoprazole. Pantoprazole  is processed by a different liver enzyme than Adderall so it should be OK together but the drop in stomach acid content from the Pantoprazole will effect the absorption of Adderall to some extent.  8 to 10 days will have limited impact.

 

By the way do you know to NOT take CBD with Adderall?

[Axlejames]

It would be almost unheard of to have low stomach acid during periods of stress/anxiety while high acid and heartburn are common under those conditions. 

 

Yes, I would wait until 10 AM to take the Pantoprazole. Pantoprazole  is processed by a different liver enzyme than Adderall so it should be OK together but the drop in stomach acid content from the Pantoprazole will effect the absorption of Adderall to some extent.  8 to 10 days will have limited impact.

 

By the way do you know to NOT take CBD with Adderall?

yeah I dont take the cbd anymore. When I was I was taking it at night and adderall in the morning. The reason I ask about the low stomach acid is because the only issue I have been experiencing is indigestion and gas and bloating. Until the day before yesterday when I ate siracha and ended up with heartburn and stuff. 

[Axlejames]

so this is what happens to me I eat then feel bloated and hard to breathe no matter how much I eat then I panic rinse and repeat I need help 

[Axlejames]

Should I just give up and take the gabapentin and see if that helps ? 

[fishinghat]

It is a classic stress response. Members normally have this stress response.  It will go away. The difficulty breathing the  gastric issues are standard. Yours is worse than most because you went through two withdrawals. What you need to do is simply follow the guidelines for controlling gastric issues in the ebook. It will work. Do you find that section?

[Axlejames]

It is a classic stress response. Members normally have this stress response.  It will go away. The difficulty breathing the  gastric issues are standard. Yours is worse than most because you went through two withdrawals. What you need to do is simply follow the guidelines for controlling gastric issues in the ebook. It will work. Do you find that section?

I will try this for sure I have been increasing my probiotic intake 

[Axlejames]

I really dont want to take this med. I havent had any acid issue until I ate the siracha now im back to the stomach tied in knots feeling. Is there something else I can do naturally. I have been reading in the book I hope those things help. I am overly stressed lately and my stomach is just adding to it. What can I do ? 

[Axlejames]

A good example of what i wonder is I had diareah for like a week and a half after my panic attacks is it possible that I am still trying to heal Now? That was at the end of November beginning of December ?

[fishinghat]

Given your withdrawal history, definitely yes. As your anxiety fades your stomach issues will also fade. Short term use of  an acid reducer is common with our members/ This is all so standard. It is well documented in the medical journals that a significant  heartburn event or gastritis can take around 2 months to go away. Given your current condition it will probably take longer. The steps outlined in the ebook will take effect slowly beginning in around 3 to 5 days for most people I know.

[Axlejames]

Is it ok to use apple cider vinegar to help digestion in the meantime ?

[fishinghat]

The use of Apple cider vinegar is risky idea as it contains vinegar (acetic acid) and can be very inflammatory on the stomach. Proceed with caution if you decide to try it.

 

Here is what members have said about their experiences with ACV...

 

Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar 

 

Used for detox, fibromyalgia, arthritis, zaps, fatigue, shakes, muscle aches and pains.

 

Tfaff - I'm trying to " detox" by eating well, finding foods that help detox the liver. I drink that apple cider vinegar/ honey/cinnamon mix that came up in another post here.

 

Fivenotions - I took myself off completely a few months ago and went back to home remedies (ginger tea and ginger slices, as well as Bragg's vinegar) ... the home remedies work pretty well (not perfectly) for the acid reflux ... but the "stomach worms"/anxiety every so slowly started to ratchet up ...

 

Another "home remedy" that really helped me (still does, I'm still taking it) is Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar ... it's also available in most health food stores, as well as from the internet (Amazon, and Bragg's directly) ... can be put in water, with honey, etc.... during early withdrawal, I drank it straight ... my food cravings were totally weird, and at the time it actually tasted great just like that ... blech ... there've been studies (which I now can't find, typical) that indicate it's a food that naturally increases serotonin levels ... it also cured my arthritis ... (Grandma knew more than I gave her credit for!)

 

The Bragg's ACV, which is unpasteurized and has what they call the "mother" in it...weird term, but that's the stuff that would otherwise be pasteurized out ....what starts to form when apple cider begins to go "hard" ....

 

Here's the link ...

http://bragg.com/

 

I started taking it early in withdrawal ... totally by self-discovery ... I was having an amazing craving for vinegar tasting stuff...like dill pickles...actually, the juice they come in...so I did some googling...

 

It was very helpful to me with the withdrawal ... seemed to help with the zaps, my constant tiredness and the body "shakes" I got .... now, I've found that it's pretty much cured my arthritis...

 

Fishinghat - By the way some have had very good success with Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar for their fibro. There is some medical research that supports this. If you do a search on this site you will find several discussions about it. Be aware it is acidic so it can upset the stomach. The reason the Bragg's is the only Apple Cider Vinegar that works is that it is unpasteurized and therefore has all the original components. If you have any questions about the Braggs let me know and I will try to answer them.

 

Lady Nancy - I could not resist the urge to search and found several references to Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar which is an unfiltered and unpasteurized apple cider vinegar. Many are unable to take it due to stomach issues in which case a good alternative is Malic Acid/Magnesium in pill form as it works the same.

 

The dose for the Bragg's is two teaspoons in a cup of water. It is much stronger than regular Apple Cider Vinegar which is probably why it causes stomach aches for some even with some sugar or honey added. I know that I would not be using sugar at all if possible as it actually adds to joint pain and feeds the inflammation. .

 

Fishinghat - A little caution on the vinegar, which has been shown effective, added vinegar ingestion by women has been linked to increases in vaginal infections due to changes in blood and vaginal pH.

 

katrand - I also add Bragg's apple cider vinegar to my orange juice every morning to aid in absorption of my thyroid meds and supplements.

 

TFL - Are you taking anything for the joint pain? I found that Apple Cider Vinegar (Braggs is the best - natural!) is a great help - you can mix a couple of spoonfuls in a cup of warm water with 1 spoon of honey and some cinnamon - almost tasty! I have arthritis and fibro and this really helps - give it a couple of weeks...

 

BJinFl - I have tried ACV, fishinghat, thank you. Unfortunately, I have one of those stomachs that can't stomach anything.

 

Fishinghat - For fibromyalgia I would try Braggs brand Apple Cider Vinegar. The dosage is 2 tablespoons in about a cup of cold water once a day. There has been some medical research that this juice has benefit for fibro and arthritis pain. This brand is the only one that works because it is the only one that is unfiltered and not pasteurized. Many find this solution to be too acidic for their stomach to handle, if you have that problem then buy some malic acid/magnesium tablets at your local health store. Malic acid and magnesium are the active ingredients in the Apple Cider vinegar.

 

Gail - ....each capsules contains 500mg apple cider vinegar powder, 300mcg potassium and 4mcg bore.

 

Fishinghat - He said to use a 50/50 blend of Braggs (sp) apple cider vinegar and water on the area on her back where the nerves are pinched. It may take a couple months to make a difference but will reduce the arthritis and the pain greatly. He recommends it to many of his patients as a way to reduce there use of pain meds for arthritis. I asked him if he has ever heard of using it on fibro and he said that the ACV worked better on the fibro than it did the arthritis.

 

http://www.ehow.com/...bromyalgia.html

This article explains the basics of using ACV to treat Fibro. I found maybe 50 articles or so that say basically the same thing and many forums that say it works.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/8587088

This research article demonstrates that malic acid is very beneficial in treating fibro. AND malic acid is one of the main ingredients in ACV. It is suggested that there must be magnesium present for it to work and there is nagnesium in ACV.

Natural diuretics include:

⦁ Apple cedar vinegar- it regulates the level of potassium in the body

 

Bragg Organic Apple Cider Vinegar is the type most often mentioned on the forums.

 

Gonnamakeit - Well, I decided to give this a try and started this morning with this recommended by Whycee a while back: "A cup of hot water, 1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon, two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar and a teaspoon of honey every morning" minus the cinnamon as I'm allergic and I have to say that it seems to be working! I had two servings this morning and this is the first good day since last Friday and I even woke up with my period in full force AGAIN--it just ended Sunday (apologies to the men!) and even those cramps are so much better.

 

FiveNotions - 

Drinking to Cure: Apple Cider Vinegar and Cherry Juice for Arthritis?

http://www.healthlin...juice-arthritis

 

This isn't an article, but a collection of links to info about the ACV arthritis connection...also, we had an interesting discussion here a while back about tart cherry juice as a remedy for withdrawal... https://www.cymbalta...l=+tart+cherry

 

The healing powers of vinegar

http://www.dailymail...rs-vinegar.html

 

http://www.anyvitami...inegar-info.htm

 

Serotonin/tryptophan connection mentioned . . . 

http://health.usnews...e-cider-vinegar

 

This is an interesting discussion about ACV from the Social Anxiety Forum....

http://www.socialanx...-relief-47323/ 

 

Wagtail - I think it was Fivenotions that recommended the apple cider vinegar , so I decided to try it . I can't say if it's a coincidence or not , but I do feel better since I've been taking it ... Less s/e's & more energy .. I'm happy with that !..:-) 

 

Carleeta - Holy Moly...Apple cider vinegar...wow...I use it daily with Iceberg lettuce...I use it on my fish and on my potatoes..Also, I mix apple cider with fresh caused garlic and fresh ground black pepper, place it in a small bowl and dip pieces of meat (steak, pork chops) on it and eat them...I also soak crispy friend pork rinds in the bowl mixture and eat them...I guess I use apple cider vinegar a lot. It's possible this is what keeps me going forward...I like that it does burn fat also... So great to know it's helping you out with your cymbalta withdrawl.... 

 

JBhibbard - Drink lots and lots of water. Have you tried the apple cider vinegar detox? I believe it helps. 

 

Andreamarie - For supplements I'm taking B Complex, Omega 3s, and apple cider vinegar.

 

Whychee - A cup of hot water, 1/2 teaspoon of cinnimon, two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar (Braggs) and a teaspoon of honey every morning.

 

plezhelp - i cannot say what will work for you but i continue to try different things = being open to change as the *** side-effects change too! the best thing i am still doing is tepid Epsom-salt baths with baking soda, and apple cider vinegar - which has helped a lot with the itching; i have no idea which one of those things are the best/better 'healing' but know that they are all currently helping me.

 

happyzappynot - I found that adding a teaspoon of cider vinegar to a glass of water helped my gut. 

 

andie - I have bought some omega 3 6 9 and taking apple cider vinegar. everything has been very bearable so far so good xx 

Nmood2talk - I started taking apple cider vinegar over a week ago to help with metabolism and weight issues - it does - more energy than ever - less appetite but amazing result is how I didn't know it helped get off Cymbalta - I tried before becasue when I didn't have money for meds at times I had terrible brain zaps(like elctric shocks in my head) and terrible nightmares- and the pain in my legs got so much worse -

the apple cider vinegar has worked 3rd day off minimal leg discomfort - no brain zaps - no nightmares - have felt better than I can remember ever - look up apple cider vinegar on Web MD and other places - don't drink straight as it will irritate throat - harsh to teeth - look to see if any side effects - says it could interact with meds ... just research it - but I'm telling you - it's an answer for me so far when I thought there were no answers - apple cider vinegar - look it up - nothing fancy although they say organic is better - got mine at the dollar store and like I said took it initially for weight loss - which it is curbing my appetite and making me feel so much better and I'm losing weight but the off cymbalta without terrible withdrawals was the unexpected unbelievable finding - look it up - research it - and let me know 

 

IamwhoIam - Prepare a mixture of apple cider vinegar and honey. Consume this mixture; this home remedy is highly effective in relieving vertigo.

[Axlejames]

Interesting last night i had a few realizations 1. I ve only really been struggling with my stomach issues for a few days yes its been uncomfortable but not as much as recently. 2. Its stress induces gastritis I have meds to help. I drank a protein shake yesterday at noon that was really hard on my stomach I know this now so I will avoid it for now. I did try 2 tsp of apple cider vinegar in warm water before dinner it felt like it helped a little. Its gonna take time to heal and that is what I am doing healing. I may try the vinegar before lunch today again and see what happens. I ve also set a reminder every hour to stop and take 10 deep breaths (thanks IUN). Thanks to all of you for your help.