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[fishinghat]

Adderall has a half-life of 10 hours so by the third day you are entering into full withdrawal. Did the dr warn you of the withdrawal? Why did he want you to skip a day or two if he knew you would suffer withdrawal? I don't understand (which is nothing new, lol)

[fishinghat]

I just saw where you went through Adderall withdrawal in 2018 and it did a job on you. Slow but steady wins the race.

[Axlejames]

Adderall has a half-life of 10 hours so by the third day you are entering into full withdrawal. Did the dr warn you of the withdrawal? Why did he want you to skip a day or two if he knew you would suffer withdrawal? I don't understand (which is nothing new, lol)

Every once in awhile I feel like it stops helping me my dr had told me to take a day or two off from it when I feel like that so I did. I took it this morning and it brings my anxiety up to. Not sure what to do with this anymore its like a double edged sword. 

[fishinghat]

Perhaps a half dose?

[invalidusername]

Agree with Hat here - you are clearly sensitive to such a drop, so you need to keep a little going thru your system to combat the "mini-withdrawal" that occurs when you cut it out completely.

[Axlejames]

I think at my next appointment I will talk with my Dr. about that there has to be a better way. I also am concerned because I dont want to be 50 years old taking adderall 

[invalidusername]

There is no harm in being on medication at that age - or any age for that matter. 

 

I just just learnt that I might have to take statins for the rest of my life and I am having a real problem coming to terms with that.... we need to accept things as they come. Just look at Hat - he has taken years to come off each of his cocktail of meds one at a time. He might still be on them, but he is limiting his suffering which is far better than rushing for the sake of an approaching age milestone...

[Axlejames]

There is no harm in being on medication at that age - or any age for that matter. 

 

I just just learnt that I might have to take statins for the rest of my life and I am having a real problem coming to terms with that.... we need to accept things as they come. Just look at Hat - he has taken years to come off each of his cocktail of meds one at a time. He might still be on them, but he is limiting his suffering which is far better than rushing for the sake of an approaching age milestone...

Good point thank you 

[Axlejames]

Have any of you had any luck with short acting meds. Like I am thinking of asking my dr about single use kind of meds like if I am having some anxiety issues or depression a pill to help curb it but not something that is taken as needed? what do you think of these 

[invalidusername]

I would love to find a pill to take as and when needed for depression... what valium is to anxiety. I've been saying that for years.

 

The best way to deal with depression is to treat it like a wave. Let it wash over you. Don't fight it, don't run away from it, just let it go over you and it will pass. We have to accept the part where it leaves us drowning in our own hope. 

 

Odd that you should say this today as I have a day of nasty depression/exhaustion going on today. But just letting it be. It is here for now, but it can't rain all the time. It will pass.

[Axlejames]

I would love to find a pill to take as and when needed for depression... what valium is to anxiety. I've been saying that for years.

 

The best way to deal with depression is to treat it like a wave. Let it wash over you. Don't fight it, don't run away from it, just let it go over you and it will pass. We have to accept the part where it leaves us drowning in our own hope. 

 

Odd that you should say this today as I have a day of nasty depression/exhaustion going on today. But just letting it be. It is here for now, but it can't rain all the time. It will pass.

"It cant rain all the time" is literally something I say a lot love that quote. 

[invalidusername]

I love it. Will be my next tattoo...

[Axlejames]

I have been depressed lately. I have a theory why and I am hoping you all can help answer so I I was on vacation a few weeks ago and one night I got drunk. on the 4th of July I got drunk again could the depression be an after affect is there any proof to that ? How is everyone else doing. 

[fishinghat]

I can't find any proof but I can tell you this has happened often with members who have drank alcohol, even a little bit. 

[invalidusername]

yup - been there done that

 

alcohol is a depressant - if you are prone to depression, it is not unlikely to feel the washout for up to a few days afterwards.

[Axlejames]

I was on anti depressants and a mood stabilizer for about 11 years. I have not been off of them for a full year yet even. Does the anxiety I experience and bouts of depression coincide with coming off these drugs and my body taking time to react or do I just suffer with these? How can I tell  

[fishinghat]

Hi AJ

 

My theory on that is if the symptoms are fading, even if slowly fading, then they are probably due to withdrawal from the drugs. If the symptoms are unchanged for 2 months or more than it is probably NOT due to withdrawal. This is just a guideline is all. Also, symptoms sometimes fade so slow that it is hard to tell so I usually start a journal with my daily symptoms. After a couple months I can look back and see if there is a change. 

[Axlejames]

Hi AJ

 

My theory on that is if the symptoms are fading, even if slowly fading, then they are probably due to withdrawal from the drugs. If the symptoms are unchanged for 2 months or more than it is probably NOT due to withdrawal. This is just a guideline is all. Also, symptoms sometimes fade so slow that it is hard to tell so I usually start a journal with my daily symptoms. After a couple months I can look back and see if there is a change. 

So I will have days sometimes even a week where I feel pretty good kinda like my old self (with more knowledge of how to handle life) then it will be like a few weeks of depression and anxiety. I run pretty anxious in general. Its like highs and lows sometimes I feel OK other times not. 

[fishinghat]

That is typical of most antidepressant withdrawals. The good spells will slowly get longer and the bad spells shorter.  Slowly, lol.

[Axlejames]

That is typical of most antidepressant withdrawals. The good spells will slowly get longer and the bad spells shorter.  Slowly, lol.

Thanks bud this really helps need a reminder sometimes as you have said this before. 

[invalidusername]

I know he like that word ("slow"), but it is fitting here.

 

Journals are a great way of figuring this stuff out. Just don't get too involved in writing down things every hour, judging your mood as this only creates more of an inward focus. My journal is a few lines at the end of a day and a rough percentage of mood. 

 

Remember that personal circumstances will always affect mood as well.

 

Such as life. 

 

Take it easy brother - always here if you need us.

[Axlejames]

I know he like that word ("slow"), but it is fitting here.

 

Journals are a great way of figuring this stuff out. Just don't get too involved in writing down things every hour, judging your mood as this only creates more of an inward focus. My journal is a few lines at the end of a day and a rough percentage of mood. 

 

Remember that personal circumstances will always affect mood as well.

 

Such as life. 

 

Take it easy brother - always here if you need us.

Thank you bud hope all is well with you 

[invalidusername]

Ups and downs; the usual.

 

Always thinking about you. Never forget how brave you have been throughout all this. Not even the fact that you are a veteran (which is an amazing thing in itself), but all the family stuff you had during your withdrawal. You went through so much and came out the other side.

 

I'll never forget how well you coped - and neither should you dear friend.

[Axlejames]

Ups and downs; the usual.

 

Always thinking about you. Never forget how brave you have been throughout all this. Not even the fact that you are a veteran (which is an amazing thing in itself), but all the family stuff you had during your withdrawal. You went through so much and came out the other side.

 

I'll never forget how well you coped - and neither should you dear friend.

Thank you my friend it has been insane and I get surprised sometimes as well when I sit and think about it. My wife as ready to leave me 2 years ago and by some miracle we worked through it. Thank God I am here for you bud just so you know. 

[Axlejames]

Has anyone ever heard of emotional addiction ? basically you are addicted to a certain emotion do you think its possible to be addicted to being anxious ? I was thinking on this today with my upbringing and the war being on guard all the time I think saved me. Am I addicted to being anxious since as I watch what I do throughout the day I find myself trying to get myself there. 

[fishinghat]

Not really

 

Anxiety is primarily a response to stress or the result of a chemical imbalance in neurotransmitters (such as withdrawal). An addition, even to emotions, is a strong desire to feel the pleasant response to a given situation. This would include cocaine, heroine, etc, The dopamine high generates the pleasant result. In regard to emotional addiction, the most famous one I am familiar with is that some women are  addicted to falling in love. The feel great pleasure with onset of feelings of love. This is due to high levels of dopamine and endorphins that are released. It should be noted that women in this category are shown to fall out of love after the new has wore off and they move  on to someone else. 

[invalidusername]

Great post Hat - agree completely with your views.

[Axlejames]

Not really

 

Anxiety is primarily a response to stress or the result of a chemical imbalance in neurotransmitters (such as withdrawal). An addition, even to emotions, is a strong desire to feel the pleasant response to a given situation. This would include cocaine, heroine, etc, The dopamine high generates the pleasant result. In regard to emotional addiction, the most famous one I am familiar with is that some women are  addicted to falling in love. The feel great pleasure with onset of feelings of love. This is due to high levels of dopamine and endorphins that are released. It should be noted that women in this category are shown to fall out of love after the new has wore off and they move  on to someone else. 

Makes sense thank you bud hope your doing well. 

[fishinghat]

Fantastic!! Thank you for asking.

[frog]

I hear what you're saying Axlejames. Having been crushed by anxiety for the last 9 months, I think I've found that it's become easy to default to that state. Almost like my brain has gotten accustomed to the feeling and now it takes less stimulus to become anxious. But there are also days when I don't feel quite so pressed upon by anxiety, and I love and relish those days. Everything is easier and more like it was before withdrawal. I couldn't say that on those days I miss the anxiety in any way. in fact it's always really heartbreaking when the anxiety comes back in a day or two.