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[Axlejames]

But once again and maybe fish has answered this already if all of this is based on withdrawl it would mean eventually it should get better

[Axlejames]

I'm considering g trying to see if I can go up 10 or 20mg on the cymbalta cause I dont really want to introduce another drug on the other hand what if the cymbalta is what's making me feel emotionally numb and depressed sorry I'm rambling it feels like I will always b ed like this

[fishinghat]

Depression does not cause obsessive thinking. It actually causes apathy and you don't care ab out anything. Anxiety causes OCD type thinking.

[Axlejames]

Oh ok well that Is good to know I was just getting at that its treatable I'm full of angst right now the ashwaghanda seems to help fish what do you think I should do I'm sorry I know that is a loaded question since you only know all my stuff on here but I'm becoming lost again but

[Axlejames]

What might help me fish is could you maybe tell me some or all the things I will experience in withdrawl

[fishinghat]

There is a thread called 'List your symptoms' in the "What are you feeling" section BUT your mind will go crazy again with paranoid thoughts if you read this. Of course you will not experience all these symptoms but your mind will get scared and obsessive about it anyway. With all the things that your drs have done to you with on things, off things, up doses, down doses you will take time to stabilize. I wish I could help. You might read "Summary of Cymbalta Withdrawal" in the Medical Support section as it lists the things members have tried and what has helped and what Everything from supplements, to alternative treatments like acupuncture, rTMS, etc. Dozens and dozens of ideas and what is good or bad about each one.

[Axlejames]

Thank you fish iun or Gail I found the question that is haunting me causing obsessive thoughts a few weeks ago as I was searching all that stuff on nde and so on a scientist said the brain survives death for who knows how long and the cells are alive so on and i haven't found anything to debunk this its disturbing If any of you could help me find something it would ease my mind

[fishinghat]

Axle, stop reading that stuff. It is driving you crazy. Het your mind on other things. You don't need to worry about that now. Once you are feeling better than you can deal with that.

[Axlejames]

Alright bud honestly just asking g the question here was therapeutic

[fishinghat]

I can tell you that info is wrong and when you are back in good shape we will discuss it more if you want to. Nothing to worry about.

[Axlejames]

Thank you fish sounds great my friend

[Axlejames]

Another thing to add to the pile here so about 6 months ago I was stretching my ears I know sounds trivial but decided i wanted to do it again but then thought well I'm 36 maybe I shouldn't I was kind of feeling silly well I decided I was gonna do it again and now I feel just non chalant about it I also feel the same way about my weight and other things that I used to worry/think about and while yeah its good that I dont worry to much or give it any thought it bothers me why dont I think of these things anymore I rather be like I was about it before

[Axlejames]

Something that just dawned on me what are the affects of taking ad for the rest of my life will it shorten it

[Axlejames]

I just dont enjoy anything anymore can any one help me understand why

[fishinghat]

Something that just dawned on me what are the affects of taking ad for the rest of my life will it shorten it

No data to suggest that they shorten the life span.

I just dont enjoy anything anymore can any one help me understand why

Withdrawals effect on the brain.

[invalidusername]

Hi Axle...

 

A late response again from me. There are so many posts on the forum now to catch up with! 

 

I will cover your last question as best I can, but remember that everyone will have different reactions to long-term use of AD's.

 

For my perspective, being on Celexa for 10 years while I was absolutely fine, was one of the biggest mistakes. There are reports that suggest being on an AD in this state permanently wire your brain such that it cannot correctly function without the drug. But this is SO difficult to prove. However, while you are in need of it, what it does it worth it for the quality of life. 

 

And as 'Hat has just weighed in, AD's reducing lifespan does not currently hold enough data. They have been around long enough to show distressing results if there were some, so I would not give this any more consideration. 

 

Not enjoying anything anymore is the cornerstone of mental health. I wake up, feel ridiculously anxious, brave a walk before breakfast if I can, crap myself about going to work and looking after the wife. Then try and calm myself down in the evening by coming on the forum and listening to music and meditating. All just trying to stablise my mood. 

 

But it will pass. I don't know when. I had 10 years of feeling great before this started and I can get there again.

[Axlejames]

Thank you both on the plus side I can say the first 4 or 5 hours of my day seem less anxious and stressful I was actually doing good today instead of looking up deep things I did what Gail suggested and looked up modern day miracles to try and brighten my mood but the issue I'm noticing is while I do feel less anxious and maybe a little positive I still feel no real enjoyment and I have like this lingering feeling of being uneasy and thoughts that creep in

[invalidusername]

It will be up and down for a while yet. This is the nature of withdrawal.

 

It is a pain as it does mean you are limited to what you can plan to do, but this is why patience is always preached here!

 

Try your very best to keep hold of those good moments. It is so easy to let the bad times steal the limelight of your thoughts, and don't forget to talk to yourself like you would talk to a friend if he was saying the same.

[Axlejames]

I'm just concerned this forum is about getting off cymbalta/duloxetine and the 30mg that I'm on right now is probably what's keeping me from going over the edge. At some point I will have to come off of it I'm at a loss I was reading other peoples stories on here some people have been on cymbalta for 10 years and now there coming off and their withdrawls seems insane the worst thing is I can deal with the physical it's the psychological and emotional battle I feel like I'm losing

[invalidusername]

Dude - I hate to lay this on you, but I was only on it for 4 months and my withdrawal is insane. This drug is no respecter of length of use it would seem. But bear in mind, I was forced into an abrupt withdrawal. If handled correctly and in a timely manner, I am sure you will be fine under the guidance of Hat, Gail, myself and others.

 

I find the physical is fine in the short term, but people often find that the length of the physical withdrawal symptoms becomes proportional to their subsequent psychological withdrawal. Every time I dropped a dose, the physical symptoms would be first, then the psychological. The longer the physical symptoms, the worse the psychological seemed to be. This gives credence to the importance of the aids listed here in the forum such as omega 3, probiotics, gaterade and so forth.

 

Withdrawal is a mission, and it is certainly no picnic, but you can avoid the worst if you stick with us.

 

Don't forget that 30mg is a very low dose of Cym, so if you are holding together, it is more you, than it is the evil drug...

[Axlejames]

Iun thank you I am going to try some relaxation things tonight hoping for a good day tomorrow

[Axlejames]

Exhausted today can feel the anxiety wanting to creep up I feel like I cant just get enough sleep

[Axlejames]

I come here some time to reflect iun when you asked me questions the other day of why I'm asking such deep thoughts it got me thinking for a long time I've been a closed minded christian which worked for me I knew I was saved and that Jesus died for me and I could rest in that with my med change sister passing wife wanting a divorce all my securities were stripped from me making me question everything add to the mix my wife has become more open to the idea of reincarnation and a more universal type of religion which has been forcing me to open my mind at a time I need to rest in my beliefs to be honest I need help not sure where to turn since I have this obsessive thinking going on that's why I'm obsessing chasing answers no one has answers that are in me I can't find right now anyways I welcome all of your thoughts

[juli]

Hi Axle,

Just a thought but I wonder if you haven't found the faith community that you need.  Are there any Christian churches near you - like a Hillsong type?  I have found most of my faith growth in their music.

Juli

[KathyInFL]

I just dont enjoy anything anymore can any one help me understand why

 

 

Withdrawals effect on the brain.

 

 

Not enjoying anything anymore is the cornerstone of mental health. I wake up, feel ridiculously anxious, brave a walk before breakfast if I can, crap myself about going to work and looking after the wife. Then try and calm myself down in the evening by coming on the forum and listening to music and meditating. All just trying to stablise my mood. 

 

 

You all help me so much with your posts, I wish I could help back! Alex and IUN, are you feeling better today? 

 

I am feeling the "not enjoying anything amymore" but I will add that to my thread.

[Axlejames]

Juli yes I go to church every Sunday with the withdrawl and everything else going on it has been rocking my faith and questioning everything as my withdrawl has got better my faith is starting to return kathy what I've been trying to do is keep doing stuff anyways even if I dont feel like it

[Axlejames]

Not sure how everyone is doing iun Gail and fish was doing ok most of the day it's strange as the day goes on my anxiety and depression get worse so by the end of the day I dont feel good/great and my dumb ass started looking at nde stuff again

[PrincessNutella]

Wow, I had those feelings creep up to me these days. FishingHat is spot on. Don't succumb. I always steered myself away the first 5 seconds it happened thinking "this is the meds I'm fine", and still do. Do some light reading, maybe? Or whatever comforts you.

[invalidusername]

Hi Axle...

 

Odd that you get worse as the day goes on - it is usually the other way around. The morning means I have to face the world again for another 16 hours before I can climb back into bed.

 

You know what.. I have just thought of a good method for you do sort your reading stuff.

 

You need a WITHDRAWAL!! LOL

 

Give yourself half hour in the morning, half hour in the evening. Do this for a week. Then drop it to 20 minutes for another week... then 15 minutes.

 

But watch out for the last 10 minutes... thats when it can get really tough, but we're here for you

 

Seriously though, it is worth thinking about.

[Axlejames]

I like that iun I might just have to do that ozgun I'm glad I'm not the only one who has these thoughts they fill me with dread but something strange happened and maybe I'm just looking for connections but my co worker is about 67 and him and I work late he kind of hinted tonight he hasn't slept well and we got to talking one of the things bothering him is his own mortality he said he didn't use to think about it but this gave me the opportunity to share all the things I've been reading about evidence and stuff but he kind of just brushed it off but what if I was what he needed to hear I dont know maybe I'm crazy