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[Axlejames]

So feeling un easy part of that withdrawl is that contributing to this feeling like somehow my life will he cut short did anyone else feel this way is it the withdrawl or some kind if sign

[fishinghat]

As long as the cardiologist reads the ekg you will be fine.

 

I had 9 months of imminent fear of immediate death during my withdrawal. Most members have some level of fea and/or doom during withdrawal. 

[Axlejames]

Thank you fish I guess on the bright side it's most likely caused by stress depression and meds which means it should get better eventually in the mean time I did what you said I took my daughters to a movie it was difficult not to dwell but I giggled and laughed here and there this process is so difficult had another realization it seems that I have also stopped pursuing Gods word I remembered that it was like food for my soul and I've kinda stopped that in order to worry also fish I am trying to give myself a timeline of when I can look at ndes and stuff like that I think in five years I'll start looking ahsi lol anyways thank you for the insight how did you get through the thoughts

[fishinghat]

Timelines only add stress and can be recipe for disappointment of you fall short. It ends when it ends. AND IT WILL END. This not something you can fight or rush. It is a matter of time, some meds to help, rest and patience.

Have you been taking your hydroxyzine?

[Axlejames]

I dont have hydroxyzine

[invalidusername]

Hi Axle - having a very bad day today, so excuse me for being quiet, but read your post...

 

"I heard many times people just dying suddenly out of no where I dont want that to happen to me hopefully there would be some kind of warning"

 

There are circumstance when this happens, but the QT has to be very significant. Those that have suffered such a fate would normally have had noticeable fatigue, headaches and so forth. My friend who has been diagnosed with it has suffered chronic headaches for some time, and the fatigue he puts down to having a lot of work and 3 kids. But he does no exercise whatsoever, and if he did, this would have shown up. He never got his headaches looked into. 

 

So being mildly paranoid here isn't a bad thing, but once you have is checked out, you do need to let it go as 'hat has said.

 

If not, you will end up like I am today having hypersensitive nerves. Every noise, movement, smell spells out danger to me. For the first half of today, I could not get out of bed. I was that scared. 

 

This has happened because of what occurred during my blood test, worrying about my car, worrying about my tight chest, worrying that I could still work and earn money. All of this at breaking point in my withdrawal. Please try to unwind a bit. 

[Axlejames]

Iun I'm sorry to hear this I pray you feel better I m new to this withdrawl stuff so I dont have an answer what I do have is my time and eyes to read what you write know that I care about you and your issues on the headaches thing I do for these very mild pains in my temple areas and along side my head but they either go away fast or I run that area and it subsides any idea what that's about what happened with your blood test

[invalidusername]

Thanks Axle. You are very supportive.

 

Blood test was done without any food or water for 12 hours, so I almost collapsed. Lost hearing, sight went blurry and all I could make out was the wife going hysterical. Not an image I like to keep in my head.

 

Pressure along the sides/temples area is often associated with muscle tension - just like eye strain or sinus problems would be at the front, and posture would be at the back. Try to be very aware of how tense you are. Just stop and think every few minutes and say to yourself "am I tense somewhere?" and I bet you will be. Quite likely your jaw. People frequently tense their jaw which results in headaches like this. 

 

The fact that you are massaging that area to ease it only evidences further that it is muscle related.

[Axlejames]

Thank you iun sorry to hear about the blood work that is scary hope that your feelings g better now like fish always says we just have to be patient and it will pass

[invalidusername]

Yes - it is time and patience.

 

Three words that keep going around my head!!

[Axlejames]

Quick question I'm somewhere I wont be able to get my cymbalta for about 2 hours after I normally take it an I going to be ok

[Axlejames]

I'm cold a lot too

[invalidusername]

Quick question I'm somewhere I wont be able to get my cymbalta for about 2 hours after I normally take it an I going to be ok

 

Two hours will be absolutely fine. Just take it as soon as you can within this time.

 

Normally if it approaches 6-8 hours or later, it is best to wait for the next dose. This is primarily for the risk of serotonin syndrome, so on lower doses this isn't so much of a concern. 

[Axlejames]

Thanks iun I was freaking out could I just be cold cause I'm anxious still not going to pretend this stupid qt thing is stuck in deep but like my extremeitys are cold could it just be the nervousness and anxiety

[invalidusername]

You are absolutely right Axle.

 

Stress hormones and anxiety constrict the blood vessels specifically in the arms and legs, as is helps in keeping the blood supply to the major organs within the torso. 

 

It is good that you are learning all of this, hence the reason I say not to stop asking!

[Axlejames]

Has anyone ever felt like you were just studying the people Around you like intently concentrating on all the things others are doing and then freaking out about it like overthinking life period

[fishinghat]

Thanks iun I was freaking out could I just be cold cause I'm anxious still not going to pretend this stupid qt thing is stuck in deep but like my extremeitys are cold could it just be the nervousness and anxiety

Dude, you live on Minnesota, what do you expect? Sorry, I just couldn't resist that. lol

Iun was right.

[fishinghat]

Has anyone ever felt like you were just studying the people Around you like intently concentrating on all the things others are doing and then freaking out about it like overthinking life period

No, when going through withdrawal I try be be around people as little as possible and ignore them as much as possible. I try to live in a vacuum. Less stress that way. I also wear noise canceling headphones so that noise doesn't bother me as much and is not a distraction.

[Axlejames]

So maybe just the being around people aspect is brings that on just the over analyzing overthinking is part of withdrawl right how bout angry outbursts or times when you talk real fast and almost get super hyper I'm still stressing about this qt deal I know I sound like a broken record feeling like crap today I over eat a lot too are these normal things

[fishinghat]

All normal. The watching others, over sensitive to activity, sound, action are all part of what is called hypervigilant. Common.

[Axlejames]

Thank you fish so all of that is normal is it just like everything else I just need to ride it out

[Axlejames]

I'm overly stressed today trying to do what you said fish watching my favorite shows but keep getting these creeping thoughts that just keep coming any anxiety tips I also cant find anything for natural supplament for ADHD fish do you know any thanks for all the help

[gail]

Morning AxleJames,

What happened with the Adderall? Real good for ADHD. I hope you have a smoother day today!

[fishinghat]

Just ride it out.

By the way if you look at post #77364, this thread, you will find what I could find in the research.

[Axlejames]

How do I go to that post

[fishinghat]

I copied the info...

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/28168597
https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/22232312
https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/28832371
https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC4757677/
https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC4691649/
https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC4538345/
https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC4968854/
https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC4879948/
https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/24958525
https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/24214970
They are talking about the benefits of Omega 3 which contains high amounts of epa and dha.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/27417479
Iron, Magnesium, Vitamin D, and Zinc Deficiencies

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/27924679
Effect of vitamin D supplementation

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC3625948/

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/26985432
Omega-3 and Zinc supplementation as complementary therapies

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/19344299
Nutrient supplementation approaches in the treatment of ADHD.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/23082739
Iron and attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder
 

[Axlejames]

Awesome brother thank you I want to say this and maybe I have but this discussion board has truly saved me there are so many days when I freak out because i dont know what is happening with me and days where i just feel like walking away from it all and i come on here and all of you are so supportive and helpful i am eternally grateful for you this whole process is scary and I'm just glad i have all of you

[fishinghat]

You mentioned that you can't control your racing thoughts. One of the things in the How to Sleep Better document deals with this because it can be such a problem when trying to go to sleep. This method is based on how military personnel are trained to handle psych stress when captured by the enemy.

 

 

Pick a subject that you are familiar with and are comfortable with. One that is not exciting, stressful or depressing. I have a large garden and that is the subject I choose to focus on. When I have racing thoughts, paranoia or OCD type symptoms I simply close my eyes and start 'planting my garden' in my head. I picture every seed I pull out of the package, how deep I plant it, how I cover it with earth, etc. I plant in the order of how I actually plant. Some early some late. But there is a trick to it.

 

During this process if I find my mind begin to wonder and thoughts creeping in I stop planting the garden and go back to the beginning and start planting all over again. This works but it can take months to get your brain retrained. I have been using this method for years and it has really helped. I k now one person with OCD that uses this method also. He takes apart his motorcycle and puts it back together in his head.

 

There is another similar method as well. That is counting something real. This involves counting something you can actually see. Being able to focus the eyes helps in being successful. The ceiling in my bedroom has a swirl coating of paint on it. I open my eyes and look at the paint and start counting the number of swirls. If thoughts begin to invade my brain I then start counting all over again.

 

Time and patience.
 

[Axlejames]

This is amazing does the racing thoughts go away as the withdrawl gets better or will I battle with this for a long time

[fishinghat]

The racing thoughts do subside as the anxiety decreases and will someday pass.