Been Off For 8 Weeks
#211
Posted 13 May 2019 - 07:25 PM
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#212
Posted 13 May 2019 - 09:47 PM
Oh man i'm so sorry! But what fight you have! Now is the time to remember what you have told me - what you are going through you chose to face. You wanted to put yourself in this position! Right now you don't know why, but you and God make a mutual decision that this is the path that was right for you. Remember amongst all the suffering - God is still there! Strip everything away, and there is God! Everything will be well, it can't not with God. This is time for your spirituality to come through. You have faced worse than this and come through it brother. There is nothing to fear, you and God have a plan! There is nothing to fear. What you have to deal with is crazy, but LOVE can and will always beat fear. You have so much LOVE. Remember one day all will be understood, and it won't only make sense but will be beautiful!
The thing is to focus on really small tasks, keep it really simple. So for example, say to yourself 'let's get through the next hour' and just focus on that, then when you do, give yourself a massive pat on the back. Just reduce the day into little segments. This helps for me when really depressed. I say to myself 'My only aim and sole focus is getting through the next hour, nothing else matters'. Then you out everything into that next hour to get through it, then when it's done, I say to myself 'YES' I've done it!! Get in! It's kept me here for 8 years.
In terms of the depression vs anxiety I agree completely. Whereas the anxiety is you face up and grin and bear it, the depression just feels like a waiting game. You feel completely powerless. I would 2 things. 1st in depression you can get in bad habits and then when the depression improves you don't actually really know, because your not testing it out. So for example, before yesterday the walks were suddenly being really tough. I felt so so depressed and just felt it wasn't safe me being alone in public. I felt on the verge of tears most of the time, and felt the pressure of being out pushed me close to complete breakdown. So I was taking a risk, and I was questioning if it was safe and should I stop. However, the last 2 days the walk was easier, in fact today I was excited to get out and really enjoyed it. So if I had stopped I wouldn't have had these 2 great experiences out which have given so so much confidence and liberation. As my depression was better the last 2 days, the walk was easier, so now I know in tough walks it won't last. So as much as possible try and stick to normal day, despite being depressed. The 2nd thing is to just accept that the depression will come and go for the moment, so don't try and fight or panic, but say 'this is depression, it is absolutely horrible, but it is what it is'. Then the depression has less to feed on. I know there are other factors but by the sounds of it your depression is mostly just brain chemistry lottery. So you just have to ride it. Basically 'ah depression your back, that not ideal timing, but I'll get you a cup of tea'. I hope you don't think I'm playing it down. I've been suicidal for most of the last 8 years of my life. It's horrific beyond words, but I'm just trying to give you tips that helped me.
While I think it's brilliant you saw clients, I hope the driving is safe? I appreciate you don't have much choice, but I love you brother and just want to make sure your safe. But going slow sounds definitely the right thing to do today. Your safety is the most important thing and under pressure we can make rash decisions.
Man sending so so much love! Sending it down the road!
BIG POINT - PM me whenever!!! I'm here and yours 100% now. If things get just too much, PM me and I can call you or whatever. Were both night owls, so if you need that or anything like that I'M HERE! We will get through this together!!
Also remember GOD IS WITH YOU RIGHT NOW.
Love you brother so much! We will do this!!
God Bless
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#215 Guest_NotMyself_*
Posted 14 May 2019 - 02:11 PM
Everyone here’s so genuinely kind. And kindness is in such short supply these days. When I came here looking for help with Duloxetine, I had no idea I’d find such a wonderful, knowledgeable and spiritual bunch of souls. Every one of you, I feel your honest warmth and it lifts me up. I feel humbled and blessed to have been guided here. So hoping and praying for deep healing for you, and us all.
Much love and blessings always xxx xxx
#217 Guest_NotMyself_*
Posted 14 May 2019 - 02:20 PM
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#218
Posted 14 May 2019 - 05:59 PM
As Notmyself said, what an inspiring post for such a young man. Beautiful!
Scrat, I do hope with all my heart, that today was a better day for you.
Notmyself, thanks for your participation, your kind words and your prayers.
WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, I, God, will make it happen.
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#219
Posted 14 May 2019 - 08:04 PM
#220
Posted 14 May 2019 - 09:40 PM
NotMyself what a lovely lovely thing to say. That really means a lot. I have many issues, but I still have strong emotions. This site shows the best of humanity. I must say I agree with you about the current state of the world. Being still so young I must say it terrifies me! A year ago I really didn't hold much hope for the world, but since being on here I realise there are people on my wave length out there. What a comfort it is for me. Suffering really is a unique experience and the bond it brings is wonderful. Clearly as this forum shows, suffering leads to great compassion.
I always love your posts. When I said you are spiritual evolved I meant it. You have such wisdom. It really nice for me to know some else who is interested in Quakerism. My great uncle was truly special and a man of peace. A hero to me. So it lovely to have that connection with you.
Hope alls well in Scotland.
Love, prayers and blessings
#222
Posted 14 May 2019 - 10:32 PM
IUN a lot of love on here today - man God really blessed me sending me here. I just feel the spirit of Jesus on here, in a way I've never really felt it before. It's really changed my life being on here, especially in my spiritual journey. Just so beautiful to find so many people so spiritually aware and in touch with that side of themselves. Spirituality is almost completely absent is modern society. Not just religion, but that connection with something bigger, a sense of the divine that infuses creation. I feel so lonely in the soulless nature of our times. London is just a hollow place, apart from the poorer areas where there is a sense of community and strong local churches. Ironic, that amongst the poverty there is a greater heart. Just as Jesus said really. You know I wish people could just slow down and open their eyes. William Blake said 'If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees things thro' narrow chinks in his cavern'. How true!
So I'm so happy you had a better day. A huge relief for you. I think it's really important that you remember that after a few bad days, you could have a good day. It shows your condition is up and down, and fluid. Very similar to my depression right now. So next time things are bad, remember this won't last!! So happy reading about mindfulness is helping! It very much a step by step approach, but it's exciting because you do a little bit more each week. The capacity for growth is basically infinite. I read about a Buddhist monk, who was quite old and had been meditating for years and years. He was having an operation, they were cutting open some part of his body. The anaesthetist forgot to inject him, yet he didn't even notice!! He felt no pain!! Can you imagine having your leg cut open and feeling no pain?! How inspiring is that? That purely through mental practice you can have mind over matter to such a degree! It makes me want to keep working and working on my mind. Gives me a purpose. A love that metaphor about the muddy water, so good. So happy it's helping!!
Very very much relate to that!! Exactly for me. Stuck in house because of my illness, but then being stuck in the house means I forget how to go out. So much is in the mind. That's the beauty for me about it in a way. If through exposure and practice we can settle our mind and a constantly ongoing process. Like I'm much more depressed now than I was say 2 years ago. But 2 years ago I never went out at all, but I go out everyday. I think personally that a shift in thinking is biggest step, more than medication. CBT literally saved my life with the OCD, so obviously I'm biased! Spiritual reading has really opened a door to a new life for me, it changed the way I think. So right now I'm in my worst depression since 2013 yet I'm going out more than I have in years. Like you say the mind is so complex, so it's about working on it. The results of CBT and Buddhism are miraculous. Also, I think you are some one who has the mental tools and spiritual depth to really thrive with these teachings.
"There is a deeper consciousness within all of us, and when faith in the Spirit is maintained, there is no limitations in its development."
See this is exactly it!! This is what I'm saying the development for you and me is limitless! We just have to look inside and as you say keep practicing.
Well the last two days have been ok. I've really enjoyed my walks, it feels exciting. Feel depression is a bit better but still feel quite lonely and still stuck in thoughts of comparing my life to the life I wanted. I project onto others and idealise there lives, treat them as if they lives are perfect, which obviously is rubbish. But it's a tempting trap to fall into, I did even before I had depression, but obviously now it hits extra hard. I guess I'm just coming to acceptance of my situation, my disabilities and all that. You never think these things are going to happen to you and it almost doesn't feel real when they do. I've got to keep working on my intense inferiority complex and feelings of being an outsider.
I hope tomorrow goes well! Sending love brother!
God Bless
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#223 Guest_NotMyself_*
Posted 15 May 2019 - 05:11 PM
Sweetest LDN, I see you bringing hope, empathy and love as warm as the sun to a world I will never see. Don’t be frightened of it for no matter what comes to pass, you will always be protected and the soul is untouched by all trouble. Your illness is waking you so swiftly. It’s why you’re here. If I have made any progress spiritually, it’s because of burdensome life circumstances. Yours are extreme, but don’t despair. Use the pain, frustration and disappointment to propel you to full blossoming. You can do it in this lifetime, if you really want to. Your soul shines xxx xxx
Prayers and blessings for you all, and IUN the Spiritual Warrior who fights on no matter what. A Guardian Angel to your wife and a spiritual brother to us all. You give your all. You are your dharma from moment to moment. What else can I say? I bow to you all with deepest appreciation and gratitude xxx xxx
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#224
Posted 15 May 2019 - 09:16 PM
#225
Posted 15 May 2019 - 10:25 PM
Read on NM thread about your day. So sorry. This is just such a tough time for you man. I'll help in anyway I can. I'll keep praying. My guess would be your brain is confused by the cross-taper, add in the withdrawal from Lexapro and it's just messing with you. The main positive is you had a good day yesterday, when my depression has been at it's worst would not have a proper good day for ages. So hold on to yesterday. Also at least you can still do your job, this is great bravery.
So happy your making progress with meditating. It's takes time and patience, but in the long run I think it can be transformative. As I say the beauty of it, is that there is no ceiling. Also really important point - there is no 'good' meditating, just doing it is all that matters. Most people find it tough at the beginning. To be honest, I don't actually formally meditate at the moment, mostly do my own kinda mindfulness in the garden, car etc. I've found my own way of doing it. My osteopath is a Buddhist and she's practised for 20 years or something and she told she doesn't like silent meditation, so she chants mantras out loud instead. It's about experimenting and finding what's right, it's not strict rules!!
I'm sorry does your wife use social media? I've had problems with it, so can help if I want? Social media is very dangerous, especially if your not going out much, I myself can attest to that. It a complete fake world on there and it's tricks you into feeling bad about yourself. Ultimately it's driven by consumerism, you can't be happy if you don't have this and this etc. If they told you, that you don't need anything they wouldn't make any money. People put up idealised versions of themselves, totally fake, and then everybody just ends up feeling jealous of each other. It's a sick cycle. It's all photoshopped as well. So I guess it's just really important to realise that almost everybody who goes on it, feels inferior in some way, it's universal reaction to it. It's not just you.
I'm feeling really weak this evening so sorry if this post isn't my best!! Head a bit spaced out. I had a double session with therapist today, went great. She is near Victoria station, so for an exposure we walked to Victoria station and in it. It was pretty busy, full of rushing people, near rush hour. We went into MandS and got some things. Then walked back through the station and to her room. In all over 40 mins out. Pretty much all that time in crowds! Talk about throwing me into the deep end lol! But I managed it! I did feel my head go a bit dizzy in MandS and felt a sensory overload, but it didn't last long. Last few days been really good for me, best few days I've had for long time. Hoping I can keep riding this positive wave, but we'll see. Exposure therapy with a therapist with you is fantastic, so happy I'm back doing it after 6 years. IUN maybe when your therapy comes through, you could try it? My therapist is religious as well, which is super cool as we can talk about God.
You have to be patient I think. In the summer last year I went to a therapist and she said my case was too complicated and she didn't feel qualified to take me on. It's good she was honest and fair enough, but I was too weak to try someone else straight away, so just left it. My psychiatrist suggest a few but after looking them up I wasn't sure it would be the right fit, then she mentioned my current one and it sounded perfect. It's turned out just that. I started in Jan, so it took me 7 months but I got there in the end. I hope that can give you some hope! The 5 and half years I went without I probably could have done with it, but there is no rush and I needed those years to explore internally and find myself. Now through spirituality I have some sort of inner strength and confidence that I was looking for. The key was my spiritual journey but then the therapy added on top is great. But without that deep core in me of love I found through Jesus, It wouldn't work.
Unless you've felt what spirituality can do, you can't understand it's power. It's so crazy it's looked down in modern society! There is a reason it's been part of fabric of all civilizations. Science is great, but it's not everything. We have our rational, ordered part of ourselves and then the intuitive and mystical. This spiritual iq which was so respected in other times, it completely absent. It only people like you and me and NM and Gail who through suffering have found this incredible and wonderful and life saving part of being human, that most people just aren't in touch with. I'm not anti-science by any means, in fact I love quantum physics, but we are not robots, we have souls!! We need more than JUST science to make us feel whole and give us meaning. For years, and mean literally mean years, I was just counting down my days to die. Now I realise I can touch paradise here on earth, in Buddhist terms you don't have to die to reach nirvana!! That is life changing!!! I just need to work hard on my mind and keeping training and most of all nurture LOVE!
IUN I had the seed in me, but you and the others on this beautiful place, have been the water that has made me blossom. Thank you thank you thank you!!
Love to you brother and your wife! I'm praying! Really hope things pick up! I'll always be grateful for your compassion to me.
God Bless
#226
Posted 15 May 2019 - 10:37 PM
NM wonderful post! What compassionate, wise and beautiful words! I'm praying for you!! You have such a warm, special soul. You give so much love, it's amazing!! You just have such a positive energy that you give off! Bless you for lifting me! I want to wake to the truth and then help others do the same!
I hope your neighbours aren't too bad at the mo!!
God Bless
#227
Posted 16 May 2019 - 08:24 AM
Such inspiration you have. I'm not comfortable with the lion s soul as I cry and cry and am not strong. Anxiety and depression rule my life for the moment. Lots of fears, tears and desesperate thoughts. After all this, do I deserve to be called the lion soul?
#228
Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:08 AM
Notmyself,
Such inspiration you have. I'm not comfortable with the lion s soul as I cry and cry and am not strong. Anxiety and depression rule my life for the moment. Lots of fears, tears and desesperate thoughts. After all this, do I deserve to be called the lion soul?
1, You come to the forum EVERY day and offer support regardless of your own circumstances
2. You continue with treatment that is very very difficult for you
3. You have continually braved the illness that requires this ongoing treatment
4. You have kept your faith though everything, despite the setbacks
5. Love and Kindness radiates from you - no question
6. You have guided me through countless issues with Duloxetine, Pregabalin, Lexapro, Citalopram...
7. You bake brownies and pie!!
There are more of course, but this gets you started. I think this is worthy of the title.
Thou your BODY is weak, your SOUL is strong.
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#229
Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:42 AM
Thank you for the reminder. All things considered, I love Lion s soul. I will keep it.
Getting ready for the hospital, they are taking off my zillions Staples.
I would say that the surgery was successful.
I've taken Benadryl, and I find it relaxing. It had been a long while since I'd taken it. Is it ever working! Should I have a car, I couldn't drive. Again, Scrattage, Thank you!
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#230 Guest_NotMyself_*
Posted 16 May 2019 - 11:53 AM
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#232 Guest_NotMyself_*
Posted 16 May 2019 - 01:34 PM
Am so happy you’ve found a great therapist with whom you can share some spirituality. It must make your exposure outings a tad less daunting. Lovely reading your posts, especially with IUN. It’s a gift to me. Love and blessings always sweet soul xxx xxx
#233
Posted 16 May 2019 - 07:42 PM
#234
Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:04 PM
Gail
PLEASE PLEASE KNOW YOU ARE SO SO SO STRONG, BRAVE AND HAVE THE MOST LOVING HEART!! I can honestly say I can't think in my whole life of someone as brave as you. It hurts me when you feel down on yourself because you are so amazing. You inspire me so much. I'm so honoured to meet you. IN FACT I AM STAR STRUCK TO MEET SOMEONE AS BRAVE AS YOU! I feel in awe of you. You have a very very special gift. As I told you before I see Jesus in you, and I mean it so much!! Remember even Jesus said to God 'MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?'
I read about your hospital visit. I hurts to hear you in such pain. I have tears. What you face with all the physical operations is incredible. And then you have the depression and anxiety as well!! As IUN says then you come on here and give us love and support.
If bow down before you! I thank God so so much for letting me meet you.
Thank you dear Lord for sending me Gail. Through her I see you! Dear Lord I love you and I love Gail.
You touch my heart in a very special way. You were the first person on this forum to reply to me.
LOVE LOVE LOVE
#235
Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:37 PM
Thanks for the kind words man! We'll keep working together! Team work. The 4 musketeers. Today another big exposure - after yesterday I went into my local Tesco for the 1st time since I got Lyme disease. So 1st time in 6 years, the last time I set foot in it was 6 years ago. I messed it up by staying in too long, was in there for 14 minutes, should have just pop in and out to ease myself in. When I came out I just was dizzy and had a headache and felt like a bit concussed. I think it was probably sensory overload, I'm just not used to anything like that so my brain needs time to adapt. But anyway at least I did it. The key for me PATIENCE. It waited 6 years and now it has come. Doing these things has wet my appetite and now I want to do more. But my brain is not ready and I must stay humble. Time and time again in my life when I have been patient, and I mean years worth of it, things have come back. As I have said many times i put myself in God hands and I will lovingly follow. Let life happen to you and don't chase it.
I so hope this pick up for you soon. They will but hopefully soon. Remember I was so so depressed just a week or so ago. A week is long long time in depression. Still you had an elite day, to come through that and not breakdown is MASSIVE! I think you should be really proud. If you can do that now, imagine what you can do when you feel better. Honestly remember to be kind to yourself. You set yourself such a high bar. It really important you realise how amazing what you achieved today is, considering how tough you have had it recently.
Also nice work with the meditation. 26 minutes, man you putting me to shame her lol!! If you can do 26 minutes already, I think this going to be amazing for you. I think the fact your being so pro active is amazing. You should be massively proud. But as I said it not a competition, it's about an outcome. The key is just engaging in it. I read in one of my buddhist books something alongs the lines just meditating at all, for however long and whatever way, makes you a great meditator.
Hoping for a good day for you! Prayers for you brother.
God Bless
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#236
Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:45 PM
NM yeah I love 'Be still, and know that I am God'.
‘I and the Father are one’ is another great, instant settler to turn negative emotions into the warm embrace of the knowledge that we are all one with the Source.' - Beautifully put yet again. Non-duality is so important, it was a game changer for me!
Thanks for the refresh!! I'm so lucky to have a great soul teacher on hand!!
I hope you have doing well? I really hope so! I'm sending prayers from down south!
God Bless
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:03 PM
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