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[fishinghat]

Out done
 
Iodine can increase the risk of side effects such as thyroid problems. Iodine in larger amounts can cause metallic taste, soreness of teeth and gums, burning in mouth and throat, increased saliva, throat inflammation, stomach upset, diarrhea, wasting, depression, skin problems, and many other side effects.

 

So far I only have the thyroid issues and nothing else. My current levels are expected to return to normal within 3 or 4 months. Urggg

[TryinginFL]

done in
 
 
FH, I had no idea of all of those things being caused by iodine... wow

 

I have been feeling like I have the flu today and had to cancel an appt.  -  was up almost every hour last nite.  Wondering if this could be caused by new med.  I will hang in there for the 4 weeks - it has only been one so far.  I am usually not sick, so this is a real pain in the a$$!   I have looked up the side effects and it seems as that could be the problem.

[gail]

In style

Liz, same here for the side effect it has on my sleep. Getting better though. Got back on the trazodone, it helps.

Patience is the name of the game and how we hate that game!

Thanks for the info Fisherman.

[thismoment]

style guide

Perhaps the best style guide out there for writing is the Chicago Manual of Style; there are several others.

Sorry I haven't been contributing lately; I'm currently on a train speeding throught the salad of the English South West toward Wales. Hope you are all well.

[TryinginFL]

guide helpful

 

 

Good morning, all!

 

TM, I wish I could be a stow-away in your luggage - you travel to the places I wish I could see - good for you!

Yes, Gail, I am afraid that patience is not one of my strong suits though...

[gail]

Helpful prayers

[TryinginFL]

Prayers help

[fishinghat]

help I..

 

"Help I need somebody, I really need somebody, Helllppp"

 

OKay, so maybe that not the exact words of the Beatles but what the heck!!

[TryinginFL]

I understand

 

 

Good one, FH!  I got it!

[Wagtail]

Help useless...

4months in Clinic , various antidepressants tried , failed , on Lovan (Prozac ) for 18 weeks 20 mg , have to increase to 40 mgs gradually.
25 mgs first increase ( one day ) 30 mgs 2nd day ( accidentally ) cut the tablet wrong . Had quite a good day so allowed myself to think this was going to work . 30mg on the 3rd day but didn't feel so good , increase in anxiety . Yesterday I went back to the 25 mgs ( not good ) today 5th day of increase I stuck to the 25 mgs because I woke up feeling awful . I'm also on 25 nortriptaline reducing down fro 75 mgs. I take 5 mgs Valium in the mornings & 5 mgs Valium before bed. To think I stopped taking the cymbalta after 10 years because I was sick of the weight gain & wanted to be chemical free .
Well, as you old friends will remember I went cold turkey & lived in hell for approx 7 months & put up with the burning skin, & any s/e you can think of , I endured them . The it it hit me & I was forced to get help , extremely bad depression & anxiety , I stayed drug free for 6 weeks before the family couldn't take it anymore & I agreed to go into the clinic . They tried numerous antidepressants , some made me climb the walls feeling the fear . I was weaned on & off I think 4 different types. My brain would no longer accept the type of medication that worked for me before .... The nortriptaline is ok in small doses & the Prozac worked & 20 mgs but now that I'm trying to increase it ,I'm having trouble . Fishing hat my dear friend ,if you read this can you tell me if you know of anyone successfully going back on an antidepressant ?. I'm afraid that the damage I caused by going cold turkey has done something permanent & nothing will work for me anymore .. It will be two years in November since I took my last Cymbalta. I have had a few good days here & there but they don't last. Xx

[TryinginFL]

Useless saddening

 

 

Oh dear Wagtail!  It is so wonderful to hear from you, but I am saddened by the awful experiences you have endured.  Are you home now?

 

It is so hard to believe that nothing has been found to really help you. The only thing I can share is that after 17 months off the poison drug, I just felt that I was almost going backwards.  My anger seemed to be increasing and the crying as well. 

 

My younger son was in town last week and he went with me to my PCP because he said it was awful that every time we talked on the phone I was crying and hopefully something could help me.  Well, never say never, as it goes as I am now on Bupropion (Wellbutrin) and am wondering if I am having side effects.  I have been on it about 10 days now and all I want to do is sleep!  Up until today I felt as if I had the flu - no appetite and the thought of food made me ill.  Dr. wants me back the end of the month to see how I'm doing....I'd like to know too!  I am still taking Alprazolam as well and she told me to stay on that until the Bupropion is fully uploaded.

 

Oh, I agree Wagtail, we came off way to fast with the cold turkey and if I don't take something, I feel that I will never fully recover.  My old age is of no help either.  Don't know what's up with the Italics here as I didn't change anything, but guess it's part of my technically-challenged personality.

 

You remain in my thoughts and prayers, Wagtail, as I think of you so often.

 

I also hope that FH sees your post and will respond - how I wish that things will get better for you, dear one.

 

Liz   

[gail]

Saddening story

Hey Wagtail, long time since we heard from you. Just so you know that you are not alone in that boat, I am also on Prozac 40mg. Started on Zoloft for almost 4 months and switched to the P 12 days ago plus clonidine. I feel good but so tired. I just hope it does not poop out on me.

Just wondering why you have to increase the P if you were feeling well on the nortriptaline and the 20 Prozac. That shitbalta sure screwed up our brains.

If FH does not answer, send him a pm. I hope that you find the right combo and the right dosage.♥

[fishinghat]

story time

Wow Wagtail. Too sad. I am so sorry I didn't see your post earlier. I have been cutting grass and working in the yard since 6AM.

Yes there are a lot of people who successfully go back on an antidepressant. First of all the 20 mg of Prozac is a baby dosage. It will not be consistent at that level. Most people I know are on 40 or 50 mg/day. It also takes 6 to 8 weeks to reach full effect so you will have to be patient. Also don't go up and down on the dose. I assume that the dr set you up with a schedule of how fast to ramp up. As far as successfully going on another antidepressant... Well my drs in the early days (when I was to sick to care) switched me 6 times before I settled in with Cymbalta. All of them actually worked fairly well for me and I was lucky enough to have fairly smooth transitions. Right now it is too early to know if this is going to work or not. After you reach that 40 to 50 mg dose for 2 or 3 weeks then you will have a better idea. expect some ups and downs until then.

 

Keep slowly increasing the Prozac and please keep me posted on how you are doing. You have had a few good days on the Prozac so that is a positive sign for the future.

 

God Bless

[thismoment]

Wagtail

Hello dear friend.

I cannot express how sad it makes me feel to know you are still suffering so. I managed to slip the surly bonds of this demon and if I could take your pain and set you free I would do it again.

You asked about re-instatement, and according to Dr. Stuart Shipko of Mad In America, it's a hit-and-miss proposition whether you are taking it for the first time, altering dosages, quitting the medication, or attempting to re-instate-- so can re-instatement work? Yes, but it's not totally guaranteed-- it works for some and not for others and it's kind of a crapshoot in that there's no firm pattern that may be presented as imperical data-- you just have to try it and see; it may work and it may not-- just like when you started.

". . . I'm afraid that the damage I caused by going cold turkey has done something permanent and nothing will work for me anymore . . ." There is no evidence that quitting cold turkey causes the kind of damage you are worried about, and there is also no proof that cold turkey withdrawal will prevent the theraputic effect of other medications. I believe it's a worry for which there is no support.

I apologise that I have nothing to suggest except that you continue to work with your medical team and see what begins to work. I wish you calm and peace.

Take care.

[Wagtail]

Passing time ...

All my old friends, I can't believe you all answered . Gail I was just flat lined on the 20 mgs , just felt flat & no motivation so the Dr thought it was time to increase . I'm sticking with the 25 mgs until I feel settled , if I do .
I have the added pressure of guilt & sadness riding on my back as well .
My brother in-law is in palliative care with brain cancer & I want to be up there helping my sister cope . I tried , my husband drove me up it's 21/2 hrs nth of where I live but it brought me down & I couldn't cope . I had to come home.

Also I have been waiting for many years for my husband to semi-retire & he started last week & I feel guilty that now he has the time for us to enjoy ourself , I'm spending most of my time on the lounge .
I think after so long in hospital , I have become scared to leave the house ... Sometimes I wish I had just stayed on the Cymbalta :-(
Love to all of you , I will drop by & keep you informed...xxxxxx

[fishinghat]

time out

Hey Liz, what's new with Chicago Hockey?

[TryinginFL]

out NO!

 

 

Hey FH,

 

Hawks down by 1 -- series now 2-1 Bolts.  Blech!!!   Playing in Chicago again tomorrow nite, so hope we can even it up! We will not be out, NO!!!

Did you know that the Hawks franchise began in 1926?  I didn't realize it was that long ago!

[fishinghat]

No way

 

That was a little before my time!  Wish your Hawks luck. Let me know what happens.

[gail]

No way

Don't watch hockey, but the neighbors do. It's the only time I hear them! Good thing it's not a every day thing, they would drive me nuts!

[fishinghat]

way out

 

Like that is way out dude. Can't groove that scene!!

 

Later Ladies

[TryinginFL]

out there

 

 

Dudes are really out there!

 

FH, just want to let you know, even I wasn't around in 1926!  My mother was born in 1920.  I know I'm old but....

 

Gail you should hear me yell when we get a goal - and I watch the game alone!  Tonite I hope we win - will even it out at 2-2.  This is the finals for the Stanley Cup!  Winning team has to win 4!

[gail]

There goes

Liz, in the seventies I went many times to the Montreal Forum to see the Canadians playing with my brother. I yelled, I screamed, got off my seat many times. My brother was ashamed and kept pulling my arm for me to sit down!

So, I can understand your yelling and all! Have a good one tonite!

You remember that crazy goalie from the flyers? Can't remember his name. He kept shooting the puck in the audience, he was probably on Cymbalta! Ron Hextall, I think.

[thismoment]

goes around

 

'What goes around, comes around" is a colloquial expression of karma: you will reap what you sow; you will get what you give. While I don't believe this to be a cosmic truth, it's an interesting concept. And it's curiously satisfying whenever it does come true!

[TryinginFL]

around about

 

 

I agree, TM!  That is a satisfying feeling when it goes around about !

 

 

Gail, maybe hockey fans were quieter in the 70's, but I always remember the screaming that went on in Chicago!  Speaking of old goalies, the one that comes to mind is of course a Blackhawk - Tony Esposito !  Yes, I hope I have reason to scream tonite! 

[thismoment]

about time

 

It's about time I got out of bed to celebrate the birth of the new day!

[fishinghat]

time off

 

OK TFL, can't wait to find out what happened in hockey yesterday.  Did they sink or swim?

[thismoment]

off season

 

Isn't it the off season? I mean it's June-- isn't hockey a winter sport?

[fishinghat]

season on

 

Like most sports they just keep extending the season. The more games the more money!! Basketball is just finishing up too !

[gail]

On to

FH, they swam!

[fishinghat]

to glory

 

Thanks Gail. Maybe they will go all the way.