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[looneytune]

How about a section for the success stories that MUST be out there?

 

You have no idea (well, you probably do) how disheartening and crushing it is to read over the internet "worst drug ever" stories CONSTANTLY

 

My guess is Cymbalta is likely no worse or no better than any of the AD's out there. I think Mirtazapine is the bee's knee's as an AD and very easy to taper even after a year but the internet is FULL of "stay away from Mirtazapine" it's not the drugs that's different, its US. I can't have it any more due to COPD (it's an anti histamine and suppresses coughing) What works for one guy..........

 

There is a site called Patient UK Forum and there are sections for ALL the AD's and some threads on Duloxetine success stories. It is very reassuring to hear someone praise the drug and how they struggled through the initial shit period but discovered their own rainbow at the end.....

 

There is a member/girl called Katecogs on that site who is very helpful to everyone in much the same way you two guys are but explains that recovery can take a loooooooong time due to our rising morning cortisol levels. The good mornings which we all seek are often the last thing to return after an lengthy episode of depression/anxiety and although the caps start to work after 6/12 weeks it's often many months 6/9 before you are back to "normal"

 

Reading someone's positive story and struggles with Cymbalta with a positive out come is just as good, for me at least, as a shot in the arm and it can instil in some of our fellow sufferers here on this excellent forum that most important of mindsets.......HOPE!

 

PS I completely understand that folk HAVE to be warned about high doses and length of treatment and resulting difficulties of withdrawals but success stories of 30/60 treatments of a year or less could be featured to encourage folk who might very well benefit from Cymbalta/Duloxetine

[invalidusername]

OK.... first up - you need to understand that unlike limbs, bones and muscles - the brain is completely unique to each individual.

 

Anti-depressants act on the brain - so therefore, you cannot appropriate a "one-size-fits-all" approach to these drugs. It is simply not right. Believe me, I have spent years studying them.

 

UK Patient is a good forum, but again, you need to be careful. It is littered with "positive comments only". That does not work!!! The user just wants to hear that the drug will work, when the likelihood is a 1 in 3 chance that it will going by recent research.

 

You absolutely cannot say that just because one anti-depressant work for one person that it will work for another. The brain is TOTALLY unique to every person on the planet. You have no way of knowing whether the drug in question will work unless you try it yourself. So PLEASE do not take other people's success as being a means for you own. In neurological terms, it will not work... AT ALL.

 

As I always say - the different between a PhD and an MD... which I am     LOL

 

I know Katecogs very well, and she know a LOT about this sort of thing purely as she has been pushed an pulled through it herself. She is amazing. But just remember that each person will react in different ways. One person may take 3 months to cure, whereas another may take 2 years. There is no way of knowing as the brain is very much an organ which relates to the individua - totally subjective.

 

Take hope as you will, but do not let it become your way forward if it may become a means which doesn't follow another person. I don't want that for anyone.

 

Talk to me - PM me - or Hat. This is a very controversial subject. You need to know whereof you talk. Npt everyone knows their stuff, but believe me. Hat and I will NEVER tell you something that we are not sure about. We simply do not work that way. We want the best for every member.

 

Stay in touch and let us know how you get on and if you need any further advice....

 

IUN

[fishinghat]

"...when the likelihood is a 1 in 3 chance that it will going by recent research."

 

Oh so true. Much research on the subject has shown this.

 

As IUN suggested, the potential effects of an antidepressant on the brain is extremely complex. There are literally hundreds of enzymes, hormones, proteins, foods, neurotransmitters and much more that effect these actions in the brain. each of us vary in the levels of these compounds or body produces and that leads to a great deal of variability in what antidepressant causes what effects. Just think of it, even food can drastically effect or emotions, salt, caffeine, sugar and more can all affect us. even spinach contains oxalic acid which can contribute to depression. And there is much more.

[looneytune]

Thanks guys I don't want to come across as sniffy or anything (not even sure what that means) just well confused is all, and like yourselves been through, and going through the mill

 

will update y'all on main forum where I'm at

 

Can't wait to see the doctor and tell her, her day off and day on is a load of pish........"where you get that idea from?" says lovely lady doc to unwashed/unshaved gibbering wreck sitting in the corner..........."from the internet"         you gotta laugh, the inet must be the bane of doctors life   

 

 

PS guys....I KNOW doctors know shit

[redbird22]

Looneytune, Am I understanding it correctly that Katecogs has info. on symptoms one deals with when getting off of cymbalta ? If so, can you send me links to the posts she has on the UK site where she talks about this? I went on there, found Katecogs, but don't see mention of cymbalta, though it only lets me see so many posts Katecogs has made.

p.s. I love the idea of having a section on here that talks of success stories of people getting off of cymbalta. I know that everyone is different, but in the same way, everyone on here posts unhappy different things they are dealing with through this withdrawl process, so having posts on here from people that have truly made it through to the other side (without replacing cymbalta for any other drug) would be great. Even though people's time periods are different, I think still, it'd give some positive energy to people in some way, some how. It'd balance out the horror stories we all see far too often.

p.s. feel free to direct message me. I'm happy to make another connection on this site. We all need all the support we can get, going through this process!

-redbird 

[invalidusername]

You might still find Katecogs at patient.info, but you can also look at her blog from a while back which has some interesting stuff

 

https://anxietycycle.weebly.com

 

Sorry for the quick reply. but I have go to be out to see friends in a few minutes!!

 

IUN

[redbird22]

Thanks IUN, didn't find anything regarding cymbalta / duloxetine specifically per the link you gave. I appreciate the effort to help though. 

 

[invalidusername]

You will have to dig deep on patient.info. It is a very large database full of numerous issues, but as far as I am aware, Katecogs in no longer active on the forum....